Maestro is a nice short movie, shot with a Canon HV20 and a Twoneil’s 35mm adapter. The plot: a young musician stifled by the modern day schooling system tries to find his way to make his mark. HD version & download here.


William Eggington wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 10:59 AM PST:

Wow that is nice. Ok. . . so lets price that out. . .

Around $600 for the camera.

$240 for the lens adapter.

$140 for a good 35mm lens.

$980 for that setup. Very cool.

So that camera uses tape? Isn’t that a little antiquated now that you can buy multi gig SD cards at the supermarket isle? Is the bandwidth better on tape?

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Eugenia wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 11:08 AM PST:

Tape is 25mbps, and high-end AVCHD is 24 mbps, so they are comparable. What makes the HV20/30 still better than even the most high end consumer AVCHD cameras (e.g. the Canon HF-S10) is a certain range of hardware features like the full advanced shoe. Plus it’s just $500 these days.

I am surprised you had such a question though, now. I mean, I’ve been blogging about the HV20/30 exactly for 2 years now.

Righard wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 4:24 PM PST:

Visually the film looks impressive especially because it’s made with a low budget camera. But the story is awful; guy feels prisoned in the stiff school system, he wants to get in a good music school, he writes some scores of a boring play on a blackboard. The end. It’s not special not deep not smart writin, it’s a nice looking boring void.

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Eugenia wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 5:29 PM PST:

And I guess you shot a better one?

William Eggington wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 10:18 PM PST:

eh. . . I just kind of glossed over those bits before now. I have a little daughter now so for some reason I’m crazy interested in preserving memories.

Another dumb question. . . at what resolution can it shoot 24p at? How does it deal with high noise footage like. . . panning across grass etc?

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Eugenia wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 10:28 PM PST:

>have a little daughter now

If you are after family moments, get either the HF-S100, or the HF200 if you don’t have as much money.

>at what resolution can it shoot 24p at?

Any res. But you don’t need 24p if you are only shooting family moments. Stick to the defaults, 60i.

>How does it deal with high noise footage like. . . panning across grass etc?

That’s bitrate-restricted, so AVCHD might do better, since it’s mpeg4 at 24mbps, rather than mpeg2 at 25mbps.

William Eggington wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 10:54 PM PST:

Well I’m a 3D animator so. . . I just hate the look and feel of 60i. Plus I’d love to get some nice clean interesting moving shots so I can play around with match moving. I get footage from clients and its. . . just. . . I swear monkeys could compose the shots better than that. Hard to put that stuff in my demo reel.

While I have your attention. Has anyone in the Vegas community been able to install Vegas 64 on a Windows XP64 machine? NOT Vista?

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Eugenia wrote on May 31st, 2009 at 11:17 PM PST:

I believe that Vegas 64 can work on XP 64, but DO NOT use the 64bit of Vegas, use the 32bit one. You won’t have access to third party plugins and codecs if you go with the 64bit version. I run Vista 64 too, and yet, I run Vegas 32bit. It encodes even faster than the 64bit version actually.

Now, regarding 24p. None of the Canon cameras shoot in real 24p. Hence my pulldown removal bitching for 2 years now. If you had not pass over all that information, you would know what I am talking about. The ONLY consumer Canon camera that shoots in 24PsF is the upcoming HV40 tape model, coming out in a few days (should cost about $700). The AVCHD models, like the older HV20/30 tape models, only shoot in PF24, which requires pulldown removal (and Vegas does not do automatically). So just go for the HV40 and be done with it if you really want 24p. Then, email me, and I will tell you how to correctly setup Vegas to recognize the 24PsF footage as 24p.

Righard wrote on June 1st, 2009 at 3:45 AM PST:

> And I guess you shot a better one?

Nope, I don’t like film making, (I wrote better stories though) But if I did I would not shoot a film before I had a descent story. That’s the problem with many ‘indie’ films today. I know quite many people who make such films in person, and when there making one they’re all talking about techniques, effects, filters etc. Never about thinks like suspends or emotions or the like.
Visually techniques need to be there to enhance the emotions caused by watching the film, but most film makers that also write there film first come up with techniques or wich camera to use and write the story around it.

That’s perfectly fine, just call it a tech-demo instead of a film.
You won’t call your colour grading video’s ‘short movies’ either, even though I think there’s more story in those than there is Maestro. (I’m not attacking your colour grading video’s they are fine.)

Righard wrote on June 1st, 2009 at 4:04 AM PST:

Well after bashing Maestro I have the indecency of returning and asking you a question…

Over the course of some time, a friend and I have made a long strange dream story within our lucid dreams. We like to visualise that dream using the rotoscoping technique used in Walking Life.

Because my friend studies film-making we have access to many camera’s. I’ve already made some software to rotoscope a video with lines that can tween. But we have a problem, with even the best camera at our disposal; The video looks very clear while in motion, but if you look at it frame by frame there’s a lot of motion blur, making it very difficult if not impossible to rotoscope the frames.

My question: Do all camera’s suffer from this problem or is it possible to have a camera that is photo like sharpness in each picture?

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Eugenia wrote on June 1st, 2009 at 9:24 AM PST:

If you have motion blur problems, just use higher shutter speeds to shoot, and use interpolation as your de-interlacing algorithm.

Matthew Fredrick wrote on June 1st, 2009 at 9:52 PM PST:

Richards comments were actually the first negative criticism I have received on Maestro. Thank you honestly, because if im going to be better thats what I need. I am new to filmmaking and always want my new film to best my last.

I knew my story was weak from the get go. I shot if for a film class I’m taking in a community college. I had to bump out a script in a week that had to be shot on campus. I thought it was a stupid guideline so I decided to make it more about the effects of schooling on students. The music is what really made the piece though.

I just remembered about a year ago when i was getting into film that I went to this site to to find out about the pulldown method for 24p. This was the only site that really explained it. So thank you very much for the help Eugenia.

Matthew Fredrick

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