New music video clip project

UPDATE 2: The video is done (haven’t slept all night, I was working on it). I am now waiting for final confirmation from the band.

UPDATE: Here’s a really small video sample. Work in progress! It’s 3:40 AM here. 🙂

For those who also read my husband’s blog, will already know that yesterday we had a great time shooting a music video clip for the all-female rock band Dolorata. We shot their song “You’ve Gotta Want It“. When we arrived at the band’s rehearsal space I was delighted to see that its exterior was all green! And so I used that fact to color grade it to the extreme and possibly add some chroma key elements too. Here are some ideas I got so far for post-processing:


memsom wrote on July 13th, 2008 at 6:55 AM PST:

Whilst I’m sure Americans use the term ‘music clip’, it sounds odd to my ears. A clip would be a smaller portion of an entire work to me. Like if you shot the entire fiom for the song, but only showed us 30 seconds of it. We would call it a ‘music video’ or even ‘thhe video for xxxx’ where xxxx would be the song or song and artist’s name.

English is such an unexpressive and terse language?!!?

JrezIN wrote on July 13th, 2008 at 9:14 AM PST:

When talking about “clipping”, yes… it’s usually about a fraction of something.

But the word clip is more commonly related to a “series of X”, like a sequence of bullets (a clip) or a package sequence of nails (a clip)… also related to the ‘clip’ the package pages together.
In case of music clips, it’s probably related to the fact that the most common language used in the music videos are fast sequences of small videos or images “clipped” together…

in video editing world, a clip is usually a piece of video with any length… every sequence in one music video can be a clip or the hole music video may be just one clip… it’s up to the editor or the program to divide each footage and mix footage together into clips…

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Eugenia wrote on July 13th, 2008 at 2:43 PM PST:

Memson, this filmmaking-related post is not about linguistics — which I have said many times I don’t really care about. Besides, we call them “music video clips” in Greek too. So I guess it’s a British thing to not calling them as such.

Thom Holwerda wrote on July 13th, 2008 at 3:22 PM PST:

Great work on all the fancy camera stuff and neat post-production tricks (as usual) but I’m just wondering – isn’t it time to start working on proper stories for these music videos?

As you probably know, I listen to music a lot, and I’m just packed with loads and loads of ideas on how music videos for the songs that I listen to should look like – what story they should tell, what imagery should be used, beginning, middle, end – in short, a story.

Is that your goal, in the end? First, get the actual technical process in place and under control, and then switch to actually making music videos like Marilyn Manson’s Coma White, Garbage’s Push It, and so on, and so forth – music videos that don’t just show the artists jumping around with flashy lights, but videos that actually tell a story, related (or not!) to the lyrics of the song?

This is not criticism or anything, it’s just that I’m curious about what your goals are.

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Eugenia wrote on July 13th, 2008 at 3:34 PM PST:

Unfortunately is not easy to do this. It requires two days of shooting, pre-meetings with the band to discuss ideas, and securing locations and actors. My timeframe is a maximum of 3-4 hours, and the location is always a place that I have never seen or evaluated before. I have to improvise on the spot. To do it “properly” it would require several trips to SF, secure and pay actors or models, get licenses if to we are to shoot in public places for too long, etc, etc. In other words, it’s a mess, and it’s something I can’t do without at least having a car on my own. The HIJK were telling me back in May that for their previous music clip that they shot by themselves, which does have a real story, they got into trouble while shooting outdoors at a public place without a license. So at least in the US, it’s not very easy to be on the safe side, at least not without hiring a location manager.

For this video clip we shot for 2.5 hours btw.

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Eugenia wrote on July 13th, 2008 at 3:48 PM PST:

BTW, my next video clip that I will be shooting for a local rock band in September if all goes well, it will have a half-story. Meaning, that it won’t be the band playing the instruments, but it will be a different kind of video.

I had a story idea for Dolorata’s “The Keys” song, which would have taken two days of shooting, hiring of 1-2 models and acquiring 1-2 license locations, but the band has other plans for that specific song. But if that doesn’t pan out for them, I might pitch the idea in the future. It will be quite some undertaking though, so not sure.

Herbert wrote on July 14th, 2008 at 12:46 AM PST:

The Color grade in the rehearsal looks great, and the chroma in the last one, are you using vegas for the chroma key? if so, try to use the 6 vector color correction filter to get a cleaner background for your other takes in the plugin chain, it worked for me most of the time. By the way I like your blog, nice to see the comments open. Good luck for your second video!.

Ivan wrote on July 14th, 2008 at 5:58 AM PST:

Did you use the 35mm adaptor? Can´t tell from this fragment. (Greets fron Malbun, Liechtenstein, on holiday here)

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Eugenia wrote on July 14th, 2008 at 6:07 AM PST:

Nope, no add-ons. Just the camera and a tripod for most shots, and the Canon wide-angle adapter and 500Watt lights for the studio ones.

memsom wrote on July 14th, 2008 at 2:56 PM PST:

> this filmmaking-related post is not about linguistics

Filmaking is not interesting. Linguistics is. Horses for courses 😉

> But the word clip is more commonly related to a “series
> of X”, like a sequence of bullets (a clip) or a package
> sequence of nails (a clip)… also related to the ‘clip’
> the package pages together.

Maybe in the filmographers terminology, but in the real world? No. Wrong. A clipping in a smaller piece of a whole. Newspaper clipping, for example. If I were to watch a “clip” from Star Wars, I would not be watching the entire film.

The “clip” from a gun has a different etymology, it relates to “clip” as in “clasp”, as does your paper example.

Nail “clippings” are small parts of nails, removed.. at least in my world 😉

I will shut up as Eugenia will get mad, but the examples you give do not support your argument. HOWEVER, this does not mean “clip” cannot be used in this way. All I said was “we don’t use it this way in Britain”. Americans use a lot of odd terms (e.g. you have a “program” at College, where as we have a “course” at University.) A lot of American terms do sound odd.

(the sound of me shutting up before Eugenia hunts me down for blood)

mikesum32 wrote on July 14th, 2008 at 4:29 PM PST:

Memson, Eugenia is Greek. As an American, since you insist on bringing it up (twice!), I would agree with you. I wound say a clip is part of the whole. Also, I take “courses” at college (or a university) or I take a “class,” and yes I might take the CompSci program(me) (more than one class)

Eugenia is allowed to make a few mistakes, and I’m pretty sure her English is better than your Greek.

To put it your way, it’s “thhe video for” ‘You’ve Gotta Want It.’

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