People want smartphones

This survey essentially saying that most people now want real smartphones (that are able to run real applications and such) and don’t want to deal with simple basic feature phones anymore. Good to hear. I’ve been saying that feature phones will be bust since 2004.


Moulinneuf wrote on February 13th, 2008 at 2:53 PM PST:

Its missing the good questions : what is your price of entry ?

Everyone want the latest and best in everything. Not everyone can afford a 500$ – 1k phone with 2k phone charges and 2k of services fees.

Sometime we also have to choose between lesser option because the thing aint legal right now or availaible in your country due to technology from the carrier.

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Eugenia wrote on February 13th, 2008 at 2:56 PM PST:

You can get a smartphone today for $250. The Nokia E51 smartphone is perfect for this job. One of the best phones in the market.

Sure, you can also get a feature phone for $130, but compared to the additional features you get on the E51 for $120 more, it’s worth it.

Moulinneuf wrote on February 13th, 2008 at 3:49 PM PST:

Not everyone as 130$ budgeted to spend on a smartphone even if they would want one 😉

The smartphones are not cheap on the carrier fee either ( 30 -60$ month ) with carriers , with contract. Not everyone as good carrier coverage/price/offer in there region on service.

link 1, link 2

People want smartphone yes , but at a price they can afford.

The question is it at the price that most people can afford it at as a Total cost of ownership ?

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Eugenia wrote on February 13th, 2008 at 3:56 PM PST:

Moulinneuf, the people who prefer to get these cheap phones that their carrier gives them for free, they DESERVE to NOT have a smartphone.

>but at a price they can afford.

The prices can not go below $250 for a true unsubdisised smartphone. These phones have expensive chips in them, more hardware features, and the software was much more difficult to write than on cheap phones.

If you are not willing to pay the price, then you don’t deserve it. It’s that simple. You can’t create a smartphone for $20. Because you know, that’s the price these freeloaders who are feeding off shitty carrier locked phones are willing to pay, and not a penny more.

BTW, PLEASE use HTML for links on my blog, I have said that a million times.

Moulinneuf wrote on February 13th, 2008 at 5:34 PM PST:

Sorry about html.

You don’t get my point and are jumping to the extreme.

Those are the current free phone on verizon as you can see they where top of the line 2-3 years ago.

Motorola W385 VGA Camera Phone
Samsung u340 VGA Camera Phone
Samsung u410 Camera Phone

So your point that mass production can’t make **older** phone below 250$ after 3-5 years is wrong , sorry. The phone technology probably cost more to acquire and make and was paid overtime and heavily subsidized but the competition force the price down , so even the free phone will be smartphone **eventually** but from the current newer generation in 1 to 2 years.

Another example is the iPhone 8g got 200$ price cut after 3 month and larger order + new technolgy driving the price down …

Not talking about those people. who happen to be three step above your cheapstake example of 20$ per phone ( in the US ).

I am talking about the people who will buy the rim phone at 50$-150$ ( some people are waiting on the 50$ mark ) with a subsidize contract in a 700$ – 1000$ contract price range. This is where the majority of user is.

That’s who got polled , that’s who as a price range of entry. It’s not neceesarely the price of the phone either who’s the problem. It’s the phone + carrier service + service fee.

Currently smartphone are entry level at 1500$ – 2500$ for TCO ( total cost of onwership for regular user who want to surf the web , share photo and video , etc … ) that’s 500$ more then there price of entry. That’s in the good area where carrier price is low on data.

As for deserving a smartphone … please , it’s technolgy , everyone deserve the best at the lowest price. Even the sheep , who I thought you liked as an animal 😉 , what you also tend to forget is that US currency is still a high currency so in other country due to there lower currency the price is doubled , tripled , etc …

Sorry if i was not clear or if you disagree.

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Eugenia wrote on February 13th, 2008 at 5:39 PM PST:

The models you are linking ARE NOT smartphones. They are FEATURE phones. My blog post is about people wanting SMARTPHONES. The difference is not just better hardware, but MOSTLY, the software.

And yes, good smartphones cost lots of money. Price goes down over the years yes, and if they are subsidized it’s even lower, but if you want an UNLOCKED phone, you will have to pay the premium. I personally NEVER use locked phones. I despise them.

Also, you clearly underestimate the value of software. You are thinking in terms of hardware cost, while what really makes smartphones expensive is the advanced software and OSes they run.

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