Apple keynote thoughts

In one word: boring.

Except the new Leopard UI stuff, everything else we already knew pretty much. Nevertheless, a good release and I will get it with a new Powerbook.

But the iPhone stuff really put me off. Jobs hinted about “running some sort of apps” on the iPhone and everyone assumed the “some sort” of apps would at least be widgets. But instead, it’s an even lower form of a widget: apps are simple web sites, run under a hidden Safari (with no UI shown), built with no SDK and with obviously not enough hooks to the underlying OS, and possibly — quite possibly– you would need to be online at all times to use these apps. This is not only underwhelming, but it’s a CHEAT. This is Apple bending to Cingular here, nothing more, nothing less. Users with a clue, also agree. Update: Well said.

And no new Macs or other hardware? This specific keynote sucked overall.


Andreas wrote on June 11th, 2007 at 8:29 AM PST:

I agree. Web apps could be useful only when using the WiFi capability of the iPhone. And it is hard to imagine apps like Skype to be implemented as Web Apps. At least, Jajah use will be possible.

This keynote really sucked. The secret features of Leopard were BS.

Adam Scheinberg wrote on June 11th, 2007 at 8:37 AM PST:

This was a developer’s conference. They talked about Gaming, a new UI, a new Finder, a new Dock, stacks/piles, quick view, Safari on a new platform, and more.

Hardware has no place here. Why would you expect that type of announcement here?

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Eugenia wrote on June 11th, 2007 at 8:39 AM PST:

I am sorry Adam, but you have very short memory. I’ve been to 3-4 WWDCs myself and there were ALWAYS hardware announcements. Apple uses *both* of their keynotes to announce new stuff. The ONLY new thing in this WWDC was the new UI thing, everything else we already knew.

Safari on Windows is mostly propaganda rather than something that has any value at this point in time. They used a single test to show us how Safari is “faster” than IE or Firefox. Anyone who has a clue about development of a browser should be laughing hard by now.

But as I said, my main complain was the iPhone fiasco, not the lack of hardware announcements (even if the Mac Mini could use some freshen up).

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Eugenia wrote on June 11th, 2007 at 9:07 AM PST:

>t is hard to imagine apps like Skype to be implemented as Web Apps

Jajah via the browser is not a real voice app, it just does the dialing in two different phones. To truly use Jajah or Skype you will need a real application, not Javascript. Because my IP is banned by AOL still, I am sometimes using AOL Express, which is Ajax IM. Needless to say how much it sucks, how slow, inconvenient and non-sturdy it is. So, no, no IM or graphics or office apps or ANY REAL app for that matter will be possible on the iPhone. Besides, not everyone is a Google engineer, and even then, Ajax web apps require LOTS of memory and CPU power, something that no mobile device can do easily. Even on my 867 Mhz Powerbook the laptop FLIES when JS is turned off, while it’s inconveniently slow when it is ON with some heavy Ajax pages, e.g. Google’s spreadsheet.

The iPhone, as far as being a smartphone goes, is a joke. This is not a smartphone, but instead a very high-end feature phone.

Ronaldst wrote on June 11th, 2007 at 9:59 AM PST:

The reality distortion field is weakening faster as Steven grows older. No new Front Row. No new iLife. I still don’t find anything of any worth about Leopard. Only cheap bling bling on the Dock, Coverpagethingy and MenuBar.

I was disappointed in january. I still am…

And the iPhone should have been in a seperate show.

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Eugenia wrote on June 11th, 2007 at 10:10 AM PST:

>And the iPhone should have been in a separate show.

I don’t think that this should be so (iPods were always part of the same overall strategy too), but I find the iPhone underwhelming regarding what it can do. Technically, regarding apps, the iPhone does LESS than what a $100 Motorola 128×160 phone can do as it can run Java apps.

memson wrote on June 13th, 2007 at 10:23 AM PST:

Okay, I have to pull you up on the Safari under Windows comment. have you tried it? It is sooooo much faster than IE7 or Fireforx 2.04 that it isn’t funny. The overall feel of the browser is nuce too, and it renders sites really, really quickly. I’d swich to Safari in a flash if they released it as a final tomorrow and it was proven to fully support AJAX properly (unlike MOZILLA based browsers that barf on asynchranous javascript callbacks from asynchranous callbacks quite frequently.)

memson wrote on June 13th, 2007 at 10:28 AM PST:

I suspect that we might see a Javascript implementation ala BeIA’s binder and a local execution environment ala Google Gears on the iPhone if not now then in the future.

Having played a lot with Compact Framework and QTe/Qtopia, desktop GUI API’s don’t scale well to PDA/Handheld devices. You only have to look at the fiasco that is Microsoft’s WM6 standard and WM6 professional. Standard is basically (and confusingly) Smartphone rebadged and DOES NOT SUPPORT half the UI widgets that the pro release does. So you end up rewriting the application GUI code 3 times. Once for the desktop, once for the PDA and once for the Smartphone. Yeah, great.

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