Vista sucks

My new laptop arrived today. The Inspiron 640m is a very good laptop, the only thing missing IMO is an integrated webcam. It came with Windows Vista Basic, and get this: Dell had already enable composite support for it! I don’t get any gimmicky desktop effects but I do get hardware acceleration, and that’s what matters.

Now, regarding Vista: it sucks. It is ok-fast alright, and pretty stable and it always does what you ask of it. But it’s annoying and it has a very confusing and bloated UI. While technology-wise it is a step forward for Windows, usability-wise is a step backwards. It just ain’t a simple inteface. There is no freaking way you can easily find where everything is in your computer.

For example, by mistake I deleted the Trash icon from the desktop and to get it back you have to really google it. There is no fucking way you can guess where that option is otherwise. Sure, you can just drag-n-drop a shortcut from Explorer to your desktop, but this is not the same as the original Trash icon which has special right-click options.

The control panel is a mess. IE’s UI sucks. Explorer is confusing.

One other thing, Windows Vista Mail doesn’t support Hotmail anymore. I am a paid Hotmail customer, so I am now expected to use a web browser to access my email. And how do I get all that email to my local email database? There doesn’t seem to be a way!

Now, after it told me that it can’t do Hotmail anymore, I closed down the app. Later, I decided to configure my POP3 instead. And guess what! Now Windows Vista Mail loads completely without giving me a wizard, and I just can’t find where to configure new accounts. There is no such option in its menus! What’s the deal with that? update: Found it. Apparently searching for “mail” in the programs’ search bars loads a specific email message without the rest of the UI instead of loading the full Windows Vista Mail application! What a mess!

The Sidebar is shitty: the weather applet says that it can’t find the server for my locale/language (US/English!) and the RSS applet does not let me change the RSS feeds to something else. What kind of shit is all that?

Having said that I am getting Vista Ultimate. A friend is selling it for $50 (legal copy) so I thought why not. But it will probably just stay in the shelf and it will never be used. Update June 2008: it’s sitting in my shelf never installed for more than a year.

I can’t wait for Ubuntu to get released so I can have a sane UI back. Short of not being able to install Mac OS X that is.


smoker911 wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 4:53 AM PST:

In the great PC Mac debate, this has got to be the greatest string of all time…

Moulinneuf wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 5:10 AM PST:

Return the computer , say its not what you wanted that its is lacking Vista ultimate and that your interested in getting the same computer with Ubuntu once its out if Dell ever decide to make that kind of offer.

Apple new OS and new Laptop are around the corner.

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Eugenia wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 5:13 AM PST:

I like the laptop, I don’t want to give it back. Except the lack of the webcam, it has everything I want. Besides, I can always install a Linux distro myself in it and I still want Vista in there just in case.

Moulinneuf wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 6:05 AM PST:

XPS M1210 as the integrated webcam , its a 12,1 screen too.

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950 is going to be difficult to live with when you see the G965 solutions.

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Eugenia wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 6:31 AM PST:

My screen is large, it is not 12.1″. Also, the XPS are really expensive laptops. I got mine with a very good offer.

Moulinneuf wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 8:02 AM PST:

I was talking about the XPS M1210 screen size , your’s is 14,1 , with 1 pound more for your entire system ..

900$ vs 1200$ , but you have to have a webcam or buy one , forget about GPU upgrades , Intel G950 , its an XP browsing the web system with vista on it ;-) as two article of interest for you ;-)

Top Ten Windows Vista Tweaks and Shortcuts

The Ultimate Guide to Microsoft Windows Vista

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Eugenia wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 8:41 AM PST:

I am sorry, this model is out of the question. Except the Core2Duo CPU vs my CoreDuo CPU everything else is pretty much below the specs I got. If I had to customize that XPS to have the same specs I have here, the price goes to $1600, almost double the cost. So no, that laptop not a good buy in terms of price.

Moulinneuf wrote on March 13th, 2007 at 11:23 AM PST:

Your right , I was thinking offer/upgrade , on price/spec right now , your model is hand down winning , too bad someone at Dell don’t see that its there only webcam offer and don’t up the ram and HD and lower the price to 899 to match and compete against the Macbook.

n4cer wrote on March 14th, 2007 at 4:59 AM PST:

This could be a bug. Right-click on the Gadget and choose “Close Gadget”. Then click the plus sign at the top of the sidebar and add the gadget back. The configuration dialog (also accessible by right-clicking on the gadget and choosing Options) should have a dropdown box labeled “Display this feed” and you can pick “All Feeds”, an individual feed, or a folder containing multiple feeds. The feeds must be in Vista’s feed store to show up in the gadget’s list.

Here’s a webpage that shows the dialog.

I’ll check on solutions. You may be able to use the Import wizard in Windows Live Mail Desktop (File | Import | Messages and accounts | Microsoft Outlook Express 6 | and point it to the location of the DB).

n4cer wrote on March 14th, 2007 at 7:51 AM PST:

Glass is not included in Home Basic, but composition support is included in all Vista SKUs and is automatically enabled for systems meeting the driver and hardware requirements.

For local Hotmail access you’ll need to get Windows Live Mail Desktop or a 3rd-party app. Here’s a link (there should also be a link to it in the Welcome Center).
Windows Live Mail Desktop

For the RSS gadget, hover the mouse over it and click on the wrench icon that appears on its handle (you can drag it to the desktop to make this more visible). This will invoke a dialog allowing you to change the feed(s) it displays. Note that the gadget accesses feeds in Windows’ global feed store, so if you’re currently using an app that uses its own store, you’ll need to add your desired feeds to the Windows’ store for them to show in the feed gadget or any other app that uses the Windows store. You can do so through IE. Use these instructions to import an OPML:
Importing an OPML with IE 7

or to add an individual feed, just click the Feed in IE for a given site and click Subscribe.

If you prefer Firefox, here’s an add-on that allows it to integrate with the feed store.

It’s also accessible from the commandline/script via the Microsoft.FeedsManager COM object or as a PowerShell provider with the PowerShell Community Extensions

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Eugenia wrote on March 14th, 2007 at 8:01 AM PST:

I need a way to get my hotmail in my main 900 MB email DB, not on a separate DB. Regarding RSS, no, it does not let me change anything there from its configuration panel!

matt wrote on March 15th, 2007 at 3:35 AM PST:

Ha! I am not looking forward to unleashing the Combo of Vista/Office 2007 where I support many users. The people that barely had a working knowledge of Office and Windows XP are going to be a nightmare for me. So far I have not installed it on any computers yet, but I may install it on a couple of the more tech savy faculty here and see what happens. Oh yeah, the new volume license activation scheme really sucks.

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Eugenia wrote on March 15th, 2007 at 7:01 AM PST:

Yup, same mistake here, along with many others. It’s bad usability. Email me if you want the solution on how to get the real icon back.

Alex Forster wrote on March 15th, 2007 at 12:59 PM PST:

I accidentally deleted the trash icon too! Twice! I kept confusing ‘delete’ with ‘empty.’

Jeff Rollin wrote on March 16th, 2007 at 12:00 PM PST:

Crap Vista: Personally, I don’t know what all the fuss is about; it’s just another part of Microsoft’s secret evil plan to ensure total Linux domination! :-)

Crash-beta wrote on March 17th, 2007 at 10:09 AM PST:

Why Alot of Self proclaimed Uber Computer users buy a dell or gateway, or IBM is way beyond me, they should know that those machines are Proprietary,
Want proof they suck, go to any of their websites and find out what type of harddrive they give you. For some reason the Dell XPS gives you PC2700, they act like it is top of the line. Do not even go to the lower end systems of Dell, more like PC100, no I am kidding but it is low. Ohh it cost me five hundred to six hundred just to build my box (excluding monitor, sound, and keyboard).(”With a 3yr warranty”) It makes Dells peice of crap,a huge ripoff which sells at $1,500 and look at the true options u have with those Companys, not very many,,,

Crash-beta wrote on March 17th, 2007 at 10:10 AM PST:

Throw Vista in the trash,,,i’ll never migrate to that BIG-BROTHER shi$%#$,, win2k and Linux/UNIX all the way ,,,

Crash-beta wrote on March 17th, 2007 at 10:17 AM PST:

i think the individuals that Just bluntly Installed Vista over a probably good perfect working XP or win2k Installation deserves every headache they are having…
(”freaking MAC lookalike ripoff”) i would never Install Anything over my XP-Pro or my Win2k Machines, they work great and never give me any headaches….

(”hey u guys have fun with that Vista Crap”)

Tate wrote on March 19th, 2007 at 12:58 PM PST:

When I replaced Suse with Vista Ultimate on my V3016US lappy, one of the first things I did was nuke the retarded sidebar. Then I switched to classic menus. One of my friends prefers the new menu scheme, but I think it’s annoying.

In my particular situation, it really boiled down to either Suse or Vista. I really wanted to stick with an open source OS, but nothing I tried had reliable (and easy) WiFi, VPN, and power control features. In the end Vista Ultimate won the battle for my laptop, but as soon as Suse 10.3 comes out I’ll reevaluate my decision.

Microsoft can burn in hell for all I care, and they can feel free to take their DRM with them…

Phil wrote on March 22nd, 2007 at 3:26 AM PST:

I took one look at Vista and bought an Intel iMac 20″ core 2 duo 2.16GHZ with 250GB HDD and 1GB RAM.

This is coming from someone who has been with Windows since Win 95. And I’m a IT support consultant.

The Mac is lightyears ahead, and now you can get the best of both world, i was going to use boot-camp for a win xp installation. turned out I didn’t have to bother, the Mac has everything I need. Including the latest games like Quake 4, Doom 3, PREY and World of Warcraft.

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