Heroes vs Lost

“Heroes” is the most successful new TV series this year and being a sci-fi adventure it is lately compared a lot to “Lost” online. Personally, I think that Lost is much better than Heroes. It has more mystery and a larger storyline somehow. I mean, it was just last week when the Heroes producers said that when the season ends this May the storyline will reset to a completely new storyline in the second season, with brand new heroes. This is going to hurt their show because the audience won’t connect with brand new characters all over like nothing has happened. Except the question of “are their powers natural or not” I don’t find the rest of the mysteries on Heroes very interesting (e.g. Linderman’s connection, Hiro’s father, or the paper company’s real work). My main problem is that the really bad guy of the series, Sylar, is just one guy. There is no “grand storyline” behind Heroes, and if it is, it does not layed out correctly in the screen. I still like Heroes, but it just doesn’t keep me at the edge of my seat. Not like Lost does (well, most of the time). And if that’s not enough, I can’t “feel” for any of these heroes. I just can’t connect with any of them somehow. Only Hiro is kinda cool.

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billg wrote on March 8th, 2007 at 3:00 AM PST:

I’ve never watched an entire episode of Lost. Really.

For me, the “hook” in Heroes is fitting together the puzzle, not the actions of individual characters. We’ve been led to believe the some characters are good and some are bad. Certainly, some characters do bad things. Still, HRG turns out to be someone willing to make incredible personal sacrifices to support the people he loves. Maybe what’s Good and Bad isn’t going to be so simple. After all, most of us assume that acquiring superpowers would be a Good Thing. Maybe it isn’t. What would it mean if everyone had some superpowers? How would such a society be managed, governed and policed?


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Eugenia wrote on March 8th, 2007 at 6:34 AM PST:

>For me, the “hook” in Heroes is fitting together the puzzle

This is what I am saying: that the Heroes puzzle is simply not as intriguing! There should be a government involvement, because this is something big. And who do you have instead involved in the “puzzle”? An idiot called Sylar and two businessmen. This just doesn’t do it for me somehow.

And it’s not just that. The way the show is directed does not get me at the edge of my seat. Except Claire’s real father being Petrelli, I don’t think I had any other “shock” the whole season. With Lost, you get about 3 shocks per episode. :P


Adam wrote on March 8th, 2007 at 11:45 AM PST:

Okay, I hear what you’re saying, but I have to tell you that you are coming off like a typical sci-fi fan. Often times, Sci-fi series are very exclusive – great tv, but only really for the people who understand what’s going on. Unlike an episode of, say, House, where the entire plot is wrapped up in an hour, and only some non-core details go from episode from episode.

LOST, as you’ve pointed out in your own previous posts, is a serial drama, where, once you are in, you’re in. And if you don’t start at the beginning, you’re out – for good. Each season just enforces that further.

Heroes, on the other hand, is a great, reusable concept. It’s a comic-drama – small story-arcs, 24 episodes each. And they can introduce new heroes every year, based on the same concepts. The premise of LOST revolves around people – once their stories are resolved, the show is over. Heroes revolves around an idea, a concept, one that can be reused. No one character is too important.

As for Sylar being lame, maybe so. But Sylar is just part of a much larger plot. Peter exploding, Nicki-/Jessica, Ted Sprauge, all potentially large events in the Heroes storyline.

The thing about Heroes, the thing that wins it for me, is that I believe that the entire story will be explained. At the end of the season, I will be satisfied that the storyline has been explained. Even if it’s lame, it’ll be complete. And it will make sense. And character’s motivations will be clear. I get the feeling from LOST that I will be disappointed, no matter how good it is. As great as last night was, am I eventually going to understand WHY these characters acted like they did? I’m not so sure.


Phil wrote on March 8th, 2007 at 11:54 AM PST:

I like Heroes but Sylar just comes across as one dimensional and rather boring. I hope he gets killed off in this series so that they can move onto a more interesting story the next time around. Masi Oka (Hiro) is also cool in real life too, being a computer geek who worked (works?) at George Lucas’s ILM. :)


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Eugenia wrote on March 9th, 2007 at 2:40 AM PST:

Some other articles debating the matter: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.


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Eugenia wrote on March 9th, 2007 at 12:11 PM PST:

>once their stories are resolved, the show is over.

This is not necessarily true. As you have seen, new characters have been introduced and each one has his own story. When Paolo/Nicki flashback is going to air, these two people will also be central to the story.

And when we know what Dharma is all about, new storylines can be created. E.g. a spinoff series about the Dharma days and the Hostiles, or what happens afterwards. There are endless possibilities.

>where the entire plot is wrapped up in an hour

I dislike these series. Even Star Trek wouldn’t do it for me if there was not a real “universe of history” behind it — even if most episodes were self-contained. Also, X-Files would never be as successful as it did if the producers did not introduce the alien mytharc.

I believe that most viewers like huge storylines rather than self-contained episodes. Heroes has a continuous storyline too, but it is just not as involved/complex as Lost’s. It’s more of a traditional show, well-made indeed. Lost is more revolutionary though.

The only problem I have with Lost is that the producers were not able to reproduce the excitement and quality of the first season.

Lastly, I think that Jericho started ok this season, but it’s now very boring. I have the last two episodes recorded on my DVR and I can’t be bothered to watch them.


Jeff Rollin wrote on March 9th, 2007 at 12:59 PM PST:

We’ve not had Heroes here yet in the UK, but after a good start LOST just – well, LOST it’s appeal. Gone is the “how are they going to get out of THIS one” factor or even the “What the hell are they doing here” factor, having been replaced by the “What, ANOTHER 40 minutes of seemingly-irrelevant backstory and FIVE minutes of progression?” factor.

At this point I’m amazed to see Hurley, the Koreans and John when they come in. Bah, humbug.

As for plot arcs, generally, unless the series is based upon them in the first place they tend to ruin series when they are introduced (e.g. Enterprise’s whole 9/11-in-Space thing, which also ruined Jonathan Archer’s character in the process.)


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