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I really don’t understand why Motorola even bothers with these Linux-based phones. Their latest Linux phone (announced yesterday), the ROKR E6 is essentially an A1200 in a different form factor with a slightly bigger battery. Nothing else has been added or even removed from it (GSMArena falsely reports that the A1200 is quadband, but very few such sub-models were released, most A1200s were triband too). So what’s the point? Sure, the software versions of the applications included (Opera, Real Player, Pixel Viewer, VPN client and IM & VoIP in some models for specific countries) are a bit newer, but this could easily be done if the users could re-flash their older EZX-based phones too. Bah, it’s all a marketing game. And the EZX SDK is still not released to the Linux enthusiasts to enable them to write native apps for these phones. Therefore, this phone remains a “feature phone” and not a “smartphone” in my book. Why Motorola still doesn’t learn from its past mistakes? And no EDGE either in the ROKR E6!

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Eugenia wrote on December 6th, 2006 at 7:36 AM PST:

>Maybe there is a patent or something Motorola dont like to pay to include it in there models

Please, don’t be silly. They just wanted to make the phone cheaper by not including EDGE. It’s as simple as that.

Moulineuf, the rest of your comparisons are not correct. You are basing your comparison on the editor who wrote the two articles on GSMArena. The two phones are IDENTICAL hardware wise (except the battery and the form factor), while the software included only has small improvements in it. For all intends and purposes, this is 95% the same phone. Please, put that to your skull. This is the not the first time that Motorola does that with its phones (linux or not).


Moulinneuf wrote on December 6th, 2006 at 8:22 AM PST:

Hi ,

Is it me or the ROKR jumped a couple numbers ? Where are the E3 , E4 , E5 ? ( Only availaible in Asia ? )

Most Motorola phone are Linux based this days , no ?

I tought the ROKR line was an MP3 (iTune)/Camera/with phone capability is it not ?

EDGE is for G3 data carying wich the US does not have is it not ?

If its not in any of there phone maybe its because the *default* Phone OS package Motorola always use does not have it ?

The ROKR E6 seems to be technically better then the A1200 on some small features and it really better then the ROKR E2.


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Eugenia wrote on December 6th, 2006 at 9:30 AM PST:

>Only availaible in Asia ? )

nope, nowhere.

>Most Motorola phone are Linux based this days , no ?

Not yet.

>EDGE is for G3 data carying wich the US does not have is it not ?

No, EDGE is not 3G. It’s just a hack on top of GPRS to make it faster. All countries have EDGE now, pretty much, not just US.

>Phone OS package Motorola always use does not have it ?

No. Other phone models of Linux Motorola have it, like some submodels of the A1200 and my A780 have it. It is not a software compatibility issue, it’s just that Motorola went cheap on this. I am pretty sure that they will introduce a model with EDGE to some few countries. But these are limited editions.

>The ROKR E6 seems to be technically better then the A1200 on some small features

No it’s not. It’s the same phone, repackaged. Only the battery has bigger capacity.

> and it really better then the ROKR E2.

The Rokr E2 is also Linux based, and I also own it. I own 3 Motorola Linux phones. The Rokr E2 has the same hardware too, but the UI was a bit different (it does not have a touchscreen — but the backend is the same).


Moulinneuf wrote on December 6th, 2006 at 10:34 AM PST:

Hi , thanks for the info.

“No. Other … few countries.”

I meant , like a Windows rescue CD for Gateway , Dell , HP for similar models , it as the same package/software/drivers ( different branding obviously ) even do the hardware sometime differ slightly , But for cell phones , if they always use the same default one , this seem logical to me as an explanation.

“But these are limited editions.”

( possible explanation ) Maybe there is a patent or something Motorola dont like to pay to include it in there models , is there a big difference in price between those with EDGE and those that dont ?

“No it’s not…. has bigger capacity.”

Are those below similar and not improvment , could be just I missread those as difference/improvments :

* USB v2 VS mini USB

* ROKR E6 Card slot SD, up to 2GB- 8 MB user memory

VS

A1200 Card slot microSD (TransFlash), buy memory
– 8 MB built-in memory
– Intel XScale 312MHz processor

* A1200 Ringtones Type Polyphonic (40 channels), MP3
ROKR E6 Ringtones Type Polyphonic (64 channels), MP3, AAC

* ROKR E6 – 3.5 mm headset jack

* ROKR E6 Call records 20 dialed, 20 received, 20 missed calls.

Is there some analyzer that show what chipset those device contains ? maybe itsa the chipset and cell phone cpu that changed but its still based on the same cellphone motherboards + software.

The specs do look the same but it can also be like the KRZR K1 , RAZR V3xx and its minor details ( chipset ) + the casing.


Moulinneuf wrote on December 7th, 2006 at 2:14 AM PST:

Hi ,

I miss-understood EDGE to be a software/signal and that the chipset to make it work was in the cellphone , and only needed activation or the software to communicate with it , now from what your saying ( read , what I understood ) they are going cheap by not including the chipset.

Is it as simple as dropping the chipset in the phone ? Is it possible as an upgrade or it as to be integrated at Motorola manufatures ?

“You are basing your comparison on the editor who wrote the two articles on GSMArena.”

Yes , I dont have the cellphones and probably would have never guessed them to be based on the same models with different casing ( That’s why your the expert ;-) ), thats why I find the comparaison interesting because one came out in 2005 and the other in 2006 almost one year apart ( based , again , on gsmarena info ).

Thanks for the info and reply.


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